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Loodak · Jul 16, 2012, 12:56 PM // 12:56

When i started Gw i was skeptic about whole game...first thing that bugged me was no jump button and linearity..i hit some hill or rock and i can't go over and need to go around it...

I started in January but had some internet connection and stopped playing..now i started to play again and i finished faction...currently i am in EOTN and parallel with Prophecy campaign..

The story line is epic...i like how i progress the story progress with me..with every hour that i spend playing Gw is going deeper under my skin...

I played WoW few years..the story of WoW and WC3 is great..actually after WOTLk game is not the same anymore..now it's game for kids...2 much color and so easy that 10 y/o kid can play it...in GW after every main quest u have cinematic that follows the story..in wow u don;t have such thing..if u complete some campaign u know the story..in WoW u complete final boss and u still won't know what happened..well some quest telling some story but i kinda dont like to read quests ^^

At the end i kinda miss old good PvP in WoW i still can't find my self in GW pvp...here in gw u depend on r guild or team that u fight with..in WoW if u are good u can enter battleground and kill DPS and healer alone..here i still haven't done such thing...but hoping for better PvP in GW 2...

So guys what's r opinion on this topic..

yitjuan · Jul 16, 2012, 01:05 PM // 13:05

2 totally different games except for being an MMO. How to compare?

Loodak · Jul 16, 2012, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Different yes but one the other side they are MMO just like any other MMO..u have story,PVP,PVE...here i see the point is to enter some guild and fight guild vs guild battle and be best guild...u always can compare those things..as GW 2 is close i doubt that i will see any guild vs guild battle...so iam focused on story and i can say it's epic..

Zaph · Jul 16, 2012, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Both games are very complex in their own unique ways, also WoW is p2p, while Gw is b2p... uncomparable...

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Originally Posted by Loodak

...here in gw u depend on r guild or team that u fight with..in WoW if u are good u can enter battleground and kill DPS and healer alone..here i still haven't done such thing...but hoping for better PvP in GW 2...

Actually I prefer a team structured pvp where every person and every class has its own role. I hope that Gw2 structured PvP would at least slightly resemble Gw1s PvP - which is (or at least should be) the highlight of Gw1s playing expirience.

As for the story and lore, again - uncomparable; it would be like comparing WH40k to LotR lore... story is ok, well developed lore.. fighting berzerking dragons that are about to destroy the world is a bit mainstream after Skyrim, but oh well... Also, Warcraft lore is much much older than Gw, and I'm not talking about WoW, I'm talking about general lore - WC1 (1994!!!), WC2, WC3, TFT, and then WoW..

ruk1a · Jul 16, 2012, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Currently both WoW and GW are essentially "dead" (Inb4notdeadetc.) since both devs temporarily abandoned the game to work on another project, for Blizz it's MoP and w/e else they are working on. For ANet it's GW2. I'd say they are both equally as boring right now, but GW used to be a lot better imo when the game was at its peak.

I understand the rock thing, it's hard to get used to. GW is really an acquired taste. Suck it up and wait for GW2 though, shits epic as hell and like 20x better than GW1 and WoW put together... I know, I PLAYED THE BETA MWUAHAHAHAHAAH

By the way you can't solo healers in warcraft so idk where you got that idea from, oh wait unless you're a rogue with legendaries and heroic vial I forgot pvp is incredibly unbalanced with OP pve gear...

Loodak · Jul 16, 2012, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by ruk1a

By the way you can't solo healers in warcraft so idk where you got that idea from, oh wait unless you're a rogue with legendaries and heroic vial I forgot pvp is incredibly unbalanced with OP pve gear...

haha u gotta be kidding me right..and u meant WoW right...in WOTLK i could kill any healer except Druid healer...that damn tree...arms warrior in wrathful set pwned everything..but on the other hand i played healer for a very long time so i know how to kill them..i know they are op..

Cancer777 · Jul 16, 2012, 02:51 PM // 14:51

I can see why "veterans" find GW "boring" now... but coming from a semi new comer (abt 3 months ago) the PvE is really fun and challenging for newbies.

I know PvE was meant more like a "try your builds and go fight in PvP and GvG" but I have to agree the pacing of the story, especially nightfall and EoTN, is good and keeps the player invested.

I do think than comparing them doesn't really make much sense since the play style is quite different, but if you are trying to say something like "if you had to choose only one game to play, which one would you get?" then I would think GW is better in the long run since even with deserted servers you can still play with heroes and tackle some of the elite areas.

ruk1a · Jul 16, 2012, 05:29 PM // 17:29

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Originally Posted by Loodak

haha u gotta be kidding me right..and u meant WoW right...in WOTLK i could kill any healer except Druid healer...that damn tree...arms warrior in wrathful set pwned everything..but on the other hand i played healer for a very long time so i know how to kill them..i know they are op..

I was joking

and yea wotlk resto druids were ridiculous OP. Kinda how healers are in cata.

kalian · Jul 16, 2012, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Loodak

When i started Gw i was skeptic about whole game...first thing that bugged me was no jump button and linearity..i hit some hill or rock and i can't go over and need to go around it...

This was my biggest issue with the game initially, so let me comfort you and say after the beginning part of Prophecies (Ascalon and surrounding areas) the annoying narrow path maze like structure does go away.

Andemius · Jul 16, 2012, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by Loodak

At the end i kinda miss old good PvP in WoW i still can't find my self in GW pvp...here in gw u depend on r guild or team that u fight with..in WoW if u are good u can enter battleground and kill DPS and healer alone..here i still haven't done such thing...but hoping for better PvP in GW 2...

Wait what?

You don't like that GW PvP is not gear based and built around teamwork and balance? To me any kind of PvP which is not balanced is terrible. You're not supposed to be able to go and roll everything imaginable on your own, that what your team is there for.

Loodak · Jul 16, 2012, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Andemius

Wait what?

You don't like that GW PvP is not gear based and built around teamwork and balance? To me any kind of PvP which is not balanced is terrible. You're not supposed to be able to go and roll everything imaginable on your own, that what your team is there for.

Well in my case i was with some noobs in random arena and in they were terrible..i was in few battles at fort asperwood dunno what's battle name..was fine but i saw lack of teamwork from time to time...some people only complaining and do nothing...

Andemius · Jul 16, 2012, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by Loodak

Well in my case i was with some noobs in random arena and in they were terrible..i was in few battles at fort asperwood dunno what's battle name..was fine but i saw lack of teamwork from time to time...some people only complaining and do nothing...

You'll be lucky to see proper teamplay there. Try GvG for a better idea. I'd suggest HA but it's empty nowadays.

Loodak · Jul 16, 2012, 07:25 PM // 19:25

i can't wait friday to check gw 2 ^^ hope i will have enough time to fool around

Relyk · Jul 16, 2012, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I tried Wow for a week after playing Guild Wars for such a long time. I don't think I could get through enough content to even try PvP. And random teams in random arenas and fort or jade quarry are shit poor for judging PvP in guild wars cause most of it involves people complaining.

Winner · Jul 17, 2012, 08:14 AM // 08:14

I personally hate GW 2 because it's way too complex and yet gameplay is so poor. There is no serious, skilled pvp, at least not yet. Story is good, but honestly, who cares about story after while you're grinding your 5th toon to max level. It should all be about gameplay. It's just my personal point of view, I guess I hate it because it's similar to WoW which I also dislike for similar reasons.

Anyway, back on topic I would say that WoW pve is better, there is teamwork required at some points. But GW pvp is something special. HA is unique tournament format that no game will ever have, it's really brilliant and even today when it quite inactive I still find it fun during quest days when there still are some people. I'll miss that best pvp format ever made.

bj91x · Jul 17, 2012, 08:29 AM // 08:29

I don't pvp in role playing games so I'm talking strictly about pve.

I find GW to be much more enjoyable long term. The depth of build creation is something WoW cannot match.

I started playing WoW shortly before lich king came out and had great fun for two years. After that, I've been playing WoW on and off. I currently have the annual pass and I thoroughly regret it. 3 months into the pass, I got tired of it. With nothing new until MoP, it was a complete waste of money.

More importantly though, WoW gets old way too fast. Using the same rotation for days worth of gameplay time gets mindless. Granted, the world and the quests are more epic in WoW, but when you do the same rotation you've been doing over so many hours, it's hard to enjoy the game. 31 specs isn't enough. Though if you consider that some specs are only viable in specific situations (Holy is quite pointless for questing, for example), it's less than that. After a little over 3 years of WoW, I got done with the game.

GW, on the other hand, gets refreshing every time I return to it. There's always some build I haven't tried before and it's so fun creating builds. Especially with full heroes now, it's almost limitless. 7 years into GW and I still don't feel that I'm done with the game. I feel like I need a break from GW at times, but I know I'll always return. I'm taking abreak from it right now, but I'll be back.

Another problem with WoW is that the amount of max level contents don't increase with each expansion. I mean, once you're level 85, majority of lich king contents no longer apply to you since they're low level. GW on the other hand, has 4 games worth of max level contents.

WoW is no pushover. Outside of fighting games, this game lasted the second longest for me at a little over 3 years. GW on the other hand, I've been playing for a little over 7 years and I'm still not done.

Swingline · Jul 19, 2012, 11:24 PM // 23:24

The golden age for both games are long gone. Time to get over it and move on to next gen games.